Many companies are complaining about several glitches and nightmares with their new fleet of 2014 Dodge RAM trucks eco-diesel. Here are some of the most common complaints;-No leg room for people in the backseat even on the 4-door trucks.-Gutless engine.-Soft suspension on the back, you can't even carry 30 sandbags of 50 lbs each.-Weak transmissions that have failed on new trucks with only 2,500 miles on them.-Has less towing capacity than a Chrysler Town & Country or Toyota Sienna minivan.-Complaints of noises and/or deterioritaing strut arms and bearings on the front wheels.It has also been discovered that these trucks are not made for -20 C or below (-4 F) temps. Here in southern Ontario it has been like -20 and -25 for almost 4 weeks straight and the intercooler gets frozen and it fails to cool the transmissions so they fail.
You might want to check the EcoDiesel forum. There are LOTS of engine failures. I had a 2016. Loved the truck, but got rid of it because of all the reports of engine trouble. Seems you either get a good one which lasts for 100's of thousands of miles, or it will blow up and any given time??? Doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason. It is a known.
Another thing noted was that Ford and GM/Chevy have testing facilities in the north of Ontario to see how their vehicles fare in -30 weather but guess who doesn't have a testing facility in the canadian north? Said by:Many companies are complaining about several glitches and nightmares with their new fleet of 2014 Dodge RAM trucks eco-diesel. Here are some of the most common complaints;-No leg room for people in the backseat even on the 4-door trucks.You must not be talking about the crew cab.
The quad cab can be a bit tight for tall folks but the crew cab has 6 inches more room, which leaves a ton of space even with the front seats all the way back. I have a crew cab 1500 and can fully attest to that. Unless you drive an actual truck, or can obtain fuel cheaply, diesel engines no longer make much sense for smaller vehicles because nowadays diesel is so much more expensive than gasoline.
I think diesel used to cost no more than mid-grade or premium gasoline, but now it's much more expensive, so even though diesel equipped vehicles can get better mpg than their gasoline siblings, the more expensive fuel pretty much negates that advantage. Now, if you can get used frying oil to make your own bio-diesel, or can get used oil for free, that can make diesel cheap to operate, but newer engines may be more picky about fuel. Said by:-Has less towing capacity than a Chrysler Town & Country or Toyota Sienna minivan.Even when you combine the T&C and Sienna capacities they couldn't out-tow the Ram. The 1500 with Ecodiesel has a towing capacity of 9,050lbs. The Town & Country minivan has a towing capacity of 3,600. The Sienna has a 3500lb limit. This should make people suspect of the other items you have mentioned, as to weather they are legitimate or not.My company has a fleet of 1500 Ram eco-diesel trucks and believe me that they cannot tow even trailers that are one step under 'medium' in size.
I'm telling you because I was personally pulled over by the MTO (Ministry of Transportation) and told that I could not pull a trailer that to my judgement is not even what I consider 'medium' but looks rather small.I'm also a witness that this truck cannot carry on the back the loads that my 1998 GMC Sonoma can carry. I have carried more than 14 people on the back of my Sonoma in a country road, the RAM is a bigger truck but with less weight the metal almost touches the back tire. Said by umwut:Any diesel is a let down, really idk why anyone would buy a diesel anymore they are junk.
At least in the usa with all the emissions. Fuel is $$$$ DEF, $$$$$$$ exhaust system. VGT that needs to be cleaned.My 1 ton diesel truck gets high teens for mileage. That more than make up for the difference in fuel price compared to a big block gasser. And the diesel will last many time longer than the equivalent gas engine. Yes, even modern diesels, despite what you say.
There are pros and cons to every vehicle propulsion system on the market. None are 'junk' simply because they cost more or require more maintenance. That just comes with the game.
Said by:My company has a fleet of 1500 Ram eco-diesel trucks and believe me that they cannot tow even trailers that are one step under 'medium' in size. I'm telling you because I was personally pulled over by the MTO (Ministry of Transportation) and told that I could not pull a trailer that to my judgement is not even what I consider 'medium' but looks rather small.The size of the trailer means nothing. How heavy was it? Without knowing the weight of the trailer there's no way to know whether or not it was within the truck's rated towing capacity. Said by:I'm also a witness that this truck cannot carry on the back the loads that my 1998 GMC Sonoma can carry. I have carried more than 14 people on the back of my Sonoma in a country road, the RAM is a bigger truck but with less weight the metal almost touches the back tire.
Just have them install a set of overload springs. Mine has practically no effect on the unloaded ride (there's about 1/2 between the spring and the frame) but when I carry something heavy, it will help a lot with the load.
Said by umwut:Any diesel is a let down, really idk why anyone would buy a diesel anymore they are junk. At least in the usa with all the emissions.
Fuel is $$$$ DEF, $$$$$$$ exhaust system. VGT that needs to be cleaned.My 1 ton diesel truck gets high teens for mileage. That more than make up for the difference in fuel price compared to a big block gasser. And the diesel will last many time longer than the equivalent gas engine. Yes, even modern diesels, despite what you say. There are pros and cons to every vehicle propulsion system on the market. None are 'junk' simply because they cost more or require more maintenance.
That just comes with the game.Funny how no company I know of wants a new diesel, and they do mostly everything to avoid it (of course smaller, larger just has no choice and passes the cost on), most people are considering gas as well. Those who use the truck as a truck. The reason a 'ford' 6.0 had so many issues was. Emissions, the.same. motor was in a school bus and the common issues in the ford were non existent on the different emissions class vehicle.
Now I think we can say, a school bus gets worked a little harder than any ford pick up with a 6.0 is going to.How heavy is the bus, its life is, stop, go, stop, go, stop, go.Go look at tow truck groups, and the pictures with a DPF regen. 'On the way to accident and (dpf light) fuck!' I know a few people who drive tractor trailers, the things are always down with emissions problems. Brand new trucks, and no, not run down crap, they make well over 100k a year driving so. Company is making $$$Snow plow websites. Haha, asking 'what do you guys do when your plowing a lot, and the regen light comes on'The exhaust system is an easy 5 grand, the millage is 1/2 what it should be. Turbos are burned up due to raw fuel being dumped in to the exhaust, motors are toasted due to fuel being injected on the exhaust stroke.EGR cooler issues to the point of separate cooling systems for just emissions (new fords, 2x water pumps, rads, etc)So, more $$$$ to maintain, harder to work on, more complex, lower life, lower fuel economy, truck might be disabled when you need it (Pto shut down).
Whats the pros again?Sorry, anyone who is around these things will tell you they are junk, the emissions has ruined the diesels.Remove the emissions, longer turbo life, motor life, oil life, better fuel economy.Not to mention how do you tell a customer his exhaust needs to be put in the oven lol.Now those are just the facts. I left out anything about VGT's (sure better power band but higher maintenance cost) etc.Oh right, alot of the US has shit diesel fuel (cetane rating is very low compared to rest of world) ULSD has killed all the lube in the fuel, the fuel costs more, needs additive, I feel like a god damn chemist when I fill up, granted I have a old truck so I hope I need more additives than a new truck with ULSD in mind. Pull up to the fuel station, winter I been adding power service, gota be sure no gel issues, slop some of that in the tank, of course vs base diesel, that adds not much wear protection (and I don't trust the additive package in the fuel for lube since the sulfer has been stripped out), break out my cheap wal-mart 2 stroke, put that in, at last put in the diesel fuel. Only added another 30cents/gallon to the price.I mean somehow a old IDI blazer, non turbo, can get 30+mpg.
Yet a new truck. Can't come close but costs 50k. Yaya don't get into power differences however, add a turbo, mpg goes up with power! Needs 2 cooling systems, blah blah blah.Junk.